what can linux do for me - Page 2

RichBa5tard · 7th March 2004, 17:11

Imagine you want to unrar something and you don't know where to get such an application.

Windows:
1. launch webbrowser
2. go to google.com
3. search for unrar download
4. open correct website
5. download the binarys
6. open the file in my computer
7. click next next next : )
8. doubeclick the rar file
9. close all advertising screens / trail warnings
10. click extract
11. close app & you're done

linux gentoo:
1. emerge -s rar (returns list of apps with rar in the title)
2. emerge unrar (downloads and installs unrar app)
3. unrar *.rar & you're done

jmke · 7th March 2004, 17:17

imagine you want to unblizop something and you don't where to get such an applications..

some procedure for both OS's

your example is only in favour of linux because linux has an unrar application on the HD..

bad example RB!

RichBa5tard · 7th March 2004, 17:31

My appologies, I asumed you knew how emerge works.

If you run linux Gentoo, you have a small local database which holds information about nearly every existing application: what it is used for, how large it is, which other programs it depends on AND the list of mirrors where it can be downloaded.

When you type "emerge -s bla" it will search in your database for an app that has "bla" in it's description, and returns you a list (this takes about 5 seconds on an average computer). When you type "emerge bla" it will download the application from the internet (it will check your local disk first, in caser you already have a copy), and install it.

7th March 2004, 17:48

for Debian, RH and other distro's: APT works about the same, but it doesn't have a database

apt-cache search bla makes it search the server for bla.
apt-get install bla downloads and installs its, together with other required packages

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get distro-upgrade
==> automatically brings all packages up to date

http://apt.freshrpms.net

YUM works about the same, but they say it handles the dependencies better

jmke · 7th March 2004, 17:49

Quote:

Originally posted by RichBa5tard
My appologies, I asumed you knew how emerge works..

Quote:

I don't have experience with linux, so I won't comment on that

there's more soft. available for Windows then for Linux, so the list for Linux is shorter

RichBa5tard · 7th March 2004, 17:58

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke

there's more soft. available for Windows then for Linux, so the list for Linux is shorter

Risky statement, if you're referring to free software.

Gentoo lists +77500 applications available.

jmke · 7th March 2004, 18:03

http://www.download.com/ has over 100k Windows software afaik
http://www.tucows.com
... and so on

I'm not referring to free software btw.

RichBa5tard · 7th March 2004, 18:20

Speaking for myself, i rather have a choice of 50k GPL-licenced software than 200k shareware/freeware/trailsoftware, and i think most (if not all) GNU users would agree with me.

jmke · 7th March 2004, 18:45

Quote:

Originally posted by RichBa5tard
GNU users would agree with me.

duh

RichBa5tard · 7th March 2004, 19:35

Windows users would agree too, if they knew the difference.

Why do you think all my systems run Linux??? Because it's worse?? Because it's 'cool to be different'?! I've got legal xxx € Windows licences, yet I run a free Linux OS. Yes, I can't play most games, but everything else (coding, surfing, watching tv, office) works better or equal. As I sadly don't have much time for playing games anymore, i happely stick to linux. I can still play UT/Quake clones so it's not as bad as it sounds. : )

JMke, you're a bright person. You know your way around both hardware and software. I'm fairly confident that if you would spend 1 month learning linux Gentoo, you will keep running it on at least one of your systems (well, I know your a MSCE, so your case might be different).

7th March 2004, 17:11	#11
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	Imagine you want to unrar something and you don't know where to get such an application. Windows: 1. launch webbrowser 2. go to google.com 3. search for unrar download 4. open correct website 5. download the binarys 6. open the file in my computer 7. click next next next : ) 8. doubeclick the rar file 9. close all advertising screens / trail warnings 10. click extract 11. close app & you're done linux gentoo: 1. emerge -s rar (returns list of apps with rar in the title) 2. emerge unrar (downloads and installs unrar app) 3. unrar .rar & you're done __________________ HTPC (mac osx): Mac Mini \| Core Duo 1.6Ghz \| 2GB DDR2 \| 26\" TFT Development (mac osx): Macbook \| Core 2 2.0Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 \| 250GB HD Games (win xp)*: E2160 @ 2.4Ghz \| HD3850 OC \| Asrock 4coredual-vsta \| 2GB DDR2

7th March 2004, 17:17	#12
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	imagine you want to unblizop something and you don't where to get such an applications.. some procedure for both OS's your example is only in favour of linux because linux has an unrar application on the HD.. bad example RB! __________________

7th March 2004, 17:31	#13
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	My appologies, I asumed you knew how emerge works. If you run linux Gentoo, you have a small local database which holds information about nearly every existing application: what it is used for, how large it is, which other programs it depends on AND the list of mirrors where it can be downloaded. When you type "emerge -s bla" it will search in your database for an app that has "bla" in it's description, and returns you a list (this takes about 5 seconds on an average computer). When you type "emerge bla" it will download the application from the internet (it will check your local disk first, in caser you already have a copy), and install it. __________________ HTPC (mac osx): Mac Mini \| Core Duo 1.6Ghz \| 2GB DDR2 \| 26\" TFT Development (mac osx): Macbook \| Core 2 2.0Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 \| 250GB HD Games (win xp): E2160 @ 2.4Ghz \| HD3850 OC \| Asrock 4coredual-vsta \| 2GB DDR2

7th March 2004, 18:03	#17
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	http://www.download.com/ has over 100k Windows software afaik http://www.tucows.com ... and so on I'm not referring to free software btw. __________________

7th March 2004, 18:20	#18
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	Speaking for myself, i rather have a choice of 50k GPL-licenced software than 200k shareware/freeware/trailsoftware, and i think most (if not all) GNU users would agree with me. __________________ HTPC (mac osx): Mac Mini \| Core Duo 1.6Ghz \| 2GB DDR2 \| 26\" TFT Development (mac osx): Macbook \| Core 2 2.0Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 \| 250GB HD Games (win xp): E2160 @ 2.4Ghz \| HD3850 OC \| Asrock 4coredual-vsta \| 2GB DDR2

7th March 2004, 17:48	#14
TeuS Posts: n/a	for Debian, RH and other distro's: APT works about the same, but it doesn't have a database apt-cache search bla makes it search the server for bla. apt-get install bla downloads and installs its, together with other required packages apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get distro-upgrade ==> automatically brings all packages up to date http://apt.freshrpms.net YUM works about the same, but they say it handles the dependencies better

7th March 2004, 19:35	#20
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	Windows users would agree too, if they knew the difference. Why do you think all my systems run Linux??? Because it's worse?? Because it's 'cool to be different'?! I've got legal xxx € Windows licences, yet I run a free Linux OS. Yes, I can't play most games, but everything else (coding, surfing, watching tv, office) works better or equal. As I sadly don't have much time for playing games anymore, i happely stick to linux. I can still play UT/Quake clones so it's not as bad as it sounds. : ) JMke, you're a bright person. You know your way around both hardware and software. I'm fairly confident that if you would spend 1 month learning linux Gentoo, you will keep running it on at least one of your systems (well, I know your a MSCE, so your case might be different). __________________ HTPC (mac osx): Mac Mini \| Core Duo 1.6Ghz \| 2GB DDR2 \| 26\" TFT Development (mac osx): Macbook \| Core 2 2.0Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 \| 250GB HD Games (win xp): E2160 @ 2.4Ghz \| HD3850 OC \| Asrock 4coredual-vsta \| 2GB DDR2

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