The end of MBM

Sidney · 8th July 2004, 00:29

January 21st 1998 the Internet saw the 1st version of MBM v. 1.0
Juli 6th 2004, about 7.5 years later the MBM development comes to a stop

Yes you read it right, after thinking about it for several weeks I have decided to stop development on MBM. Over the years many (if not all) clones appeared that tried to do what MBM did. Some succeeded others did not. Some I feel where technically and user wise better then MBM but with an average of 6000 hits a day and coverage on almost every PC magazine in the world it still seems to be the most popular monitoring tool around. And it is better to stop at your peak

Before I try to explain my actions I would like to thanks a few people (in no particular order):

Chris Christo for his hard work in the forums and all the little tools he has created over the years
Claes Mellangård from 3D-EGS for the logo's, webpage, the temperature page he has created for all of you and all the moral support he has given
Chris St Amand for the IO drivers
Claude Charries for his hard work on the french help file
Derek Solarino for his overal support of MBM on bp6.com
Jonathan Teh for his help when I entered the world of smbus so long ago
KyLe mcLean and all the other people at livewiredev who took MBM for some exposure of their site, I hope MBM did the job.
Rad over at Radified for all the little help over the years
Sergio Formicola the god father of MBM
Adrian Silasi of SiSoft Sandra for his help in the early days of MBM
Tamas Miklos, from Everest and finally a fellow developer who I could share info with and also returned info
Jean Delvare from LM_Sensors with which I think we had a good relation chip sharing info where ever we could
Don Hass from dhpSoftware for all the Delphi help he gave me
Ruud Stijger who helped create MBM v. 1.0 and helped me debug when I was lost
Everybody else who mirrored MBM or in anyway contributed to it with the help of language files, testing, debugging etc. etc
And all those people I forgot about over the years

So why cancel MBM ? There are several reasons for this:

The industrie itself, it is getting harder and harder to get any good info from companies, Abit and the Uguru was a good example but you can alsmost put any other name in the list, getting info from ATI, VIA, SiS, Asus is as good as impossible, and so I depend more and more on MBM users to help me with info and it is just plain frustrating to keep sending mails to companies asking for info and getting no or a BS reply back.
Time, I spend about an hour a day answering mail and answering the forum, the FAQ does not stop many users from still mailing me with the same old questions. This is not just the users fault, the design of MBM could have been better but when I started it everything was pretty simple and the core of MBM is simply old, making changes to it requires a lot of work and changes.
Keeping up with the sensor world, many GFX cards come out with sensor chip, I tried the plugin method in the hope that users would pick that up, a few did but overal it was not a big success, so to keep MBM up to date I would need to do the GFX stuff myself, wich means I need GFX cards. The donation I get for MBM does not make up for that I am afriad
Motivation, 7.5 years is a long time......

Now to answer the mails I will get about this post:

no it is not a mather of money, making MBM payware (which I said many years ago would never happen) does not change the above
no you can not get the source code, there is to much in there I got via NDA and I will not violate that
I will keep answering the forum and mail for a few weeks, this page will be up and running for as long as livewiredev decides.

Thank you all for using and supporting MBM over all those years.

-Alex

http://mbm.livewiredev.com/

Such a great contribution made to millions of people; hate to see it ends....

Bosw8er · 8th July 2004, 00:45

Quote:

Thank you all for using and supporting MBM over all those years.

-Alex

Still have it running on 4 boxes.
MBM did prevent a server shutdown twice because of a fan malfunction.
All thanks go to you Alex !

Sidney · 8th July 2004, 00:53

Motherboard makers intentionally make the temp reporting inaccurate for many not so kind business decisions.

http://www.computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/5979.html

They will make it next to impossible to release any information for accurate temp readings. The same reason they choose to use calculation to arrive the sensor temp.

I wish something could be worked out so that MBM can remain a viable source of information.

jort · 8th July 2004, 01:52

thans very pitty mbm is a good temp monitoring program.

8th July 2004, 16:04

Well, has long has it works on my pc. But when I upgrade it won't work anymore

thats very sad, because it was a geed program

Bosw8er · 8th July 2004, 16:19

Maybe we should all make an effort and thank Alex

Sidney · 8th July 2004, 18:24

Quote:

Maybe we should all make an effort and thank Alex

Suggestion?

Bosw8er · 8th July 2004, 18:42

Quote:

Originally posted by lazyman

Suggestion?

euh ... like register ... make a thx-post ...

Are you just awake and haven't had your coffee yet ?

8th July 2004, 18:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Bosw8er

euh ... like register ... make a thx-post ...

Are you just awake and haven't had your coffee yet ?

idd, Bosw8er, you register and thanx him in the name of all the people on this forum

that will make it a lot easyer for us

Sidney · 8th July 2004, 18:57

I was thinking about having jmke to contact a few more review sites and collectively thanking him.

Post the same theme in the front page for a period of time.; )

Having hardware problem with one of the system.

8th July 2004, 00:29	#1
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	The end of MBM January 21st 1998 the Internet saw the 1st version of MBM v. 1.0 Juli 6th 2004, about 7.5 years later the MBM development comes to a stop Yes you read it right, after thinking about it for several weeks I have decided to stop development on MBM. Over the years many (if not all) clones appeared that tried to do what MBM did. Some succeeded others did not. Some I feel where technically and user wise better then MBM but with an average of 6000 hits a day and coverage on almost every PC magazine in the world it still seems to be the most popular monitoring tool around. And it is better to stop at your peak Before I try to explain my actions I would like to thanks a few people (in no particular order): Chris Christo for his hard work in the forums and all the little tools he has created over the years Claes Mellangård from 3D-EGS for the logo's, webpage, the temperature page he has created for all of you and all the moral support he has given Chris St Amand for the IO drivers Claude Charries for his hard work on the french help file Derek Solarino for his overal support of MBM on bp6.com Jonathan Teh for his help when I entered the world of smbus so long ago KyLe mcLean and all the other people at livewiredev who took MBM for some exposure of their site, I hope MBM did the job. Rad over at Radified for all the little help over the years Sergio Formicola the god father of MBM Adrian Silasi of SiSoft Sandra for his help in the early days of MBM Tamas Miklos, from Everest and finally a fellow developer who I could share info with and also returned info Jean Delvare from LM_Sensors with which I think we had a good relation chip sharing info where ever we could Don Hass from dhpSoftware for all the Delphi help he gave me Ruud Stijger who helped create MBM v. 1.0 and helped me debug when I was lost Everybody else who mirrored MBM or in anyway contributed to it with the help of language files, testing, debugging etc. etc And all those people I forgot about over the years So why cancel MBM ? There are several reasons for this: The industrie itself, it is getting harder and harder to get any good info from companies, Abit and the Uguru was a good example but you can alsmost put any other name in the list, getting info from ATI, VIA, SiS, Asus is as good as impossible, and so I depend more and more on MBM users to help me with info and it is just plain frustrating to keep sending mails to companies asking for info and getting no or a BS reply back. Time, I spend about an hour a day answering mail and answering the forum, the FAQ does not stop many users from still mailing me with the same old questions. This is not just the users fault, the design of MBM could have been better but when I started it everything was pretty simple and the core of MBM is simply old, making changes to it requires a lot of work and changes. Keeping up with the sensor world, many GFX cards come out with sensor chip, I tried the plugin method in the hope that users would pick that up, a few did but overal it was not a big success, so to keep MBM up to date I would need to do the GFX stuff myself, wich means I need GFX cards. The donation I get for MBM does not make up for that I am afriad Motivation, 7.5 years is a long time...... Now to answer the mails I will get about this post: no it is not a mather of money, making MBM payware (which I said many years ago would never happen) does not change the above no you can not get the source code, there is to much in there I got via NDA and I will not violate that I will keep answering the forum and mail for a few weeks, this page will be up and running for as long as livewiredev decides. Thank you all for using and supporting MBM over all those years. -Alex http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ Such a great contribution made to millions of people; hate to see it ends.... __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

8th July 2004, 00:53	#3
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	Motherboard makers intentionally make the temp reporting inaccurate for many not so kind business decisions. http://www.computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/5979.html They will make it next to impossible to release any information for accurate temp readings. The same reason they choose to use calculation to arrive the sensor temp. I wish something could be worked out so that MBM can remain a viable source of information. __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

8th July 2004, 01:52	#4
jort Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: mechelen(belgium) Posts: 2,037	thans very pitty mbm is a good temp monitoring program. __________________ watercooling, chilled water,direct phase change, cascade, custom modding

8th July 2004, 16:19	#6
Bosw8er Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,711	Maybe we should all make an effort and thank Alex __________________ "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

8th July 2004, 18:57	#10
Sidney Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,738	I was thinking about having jmke to contact a few more review sites and collectively thanking him. Post the same theme in the front page for a period of time.; ) Having hardware problem with one of the system. __________________ lazyman Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

8th July 2004, 16:04	#5
kr15t0f Posts: n/a	Well, has long has it works on my pc. But when I upgrade it won't work anymore thats very sad, because it was a geed program

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