jmke

ATI's first 40nm Guinea pig product, the RV740 based Radeon HD 4870 will sell for $99 at launch. This card ends up a bit slower than Radeon HD 4850 and at the same time, it is faster than Radeon 4830, an RV770 based product.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...73&It emid=34

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jmke

The Radeon HD 4890 launched today is quite interesting, but I'm more looking forward to this video card which will have much lower power consumption, and performance that will most likely match 9800 GTX, and this at a price of $99. NVIDIA has 9600 GT at this price point, no match.

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geoffrey

Finally about time they wipe out 9600GT, overpriced

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jmke

ATI HD 4850 already took care of the 9600 GT in my humble opinion, priced at €120 http://www.google.de/products?q=Radeon+4850&scoring=p
than there's the 4670 which is on par with 9600 GT but costs €10 less than cheapest 9600 GT; and don't overlook 4830 which is priced the SAME as 9600 GT (both around €80-90) but does a LOT better than 9600 GT, even beating 8800 GT in some games.

I can't understand 9600 GT, it should be priced around €70 MAX; not €90, or even €130 as i've seen some units... doesn't make sense.

but ... while NVIDIA doesn't have enough value products; 9600 GT is only viable option, slower is just too slow for todays games, and 9800 GT is too expensive; ATI is overcrowding the value segment, really overcrowding it!

We have:

- 4650 €50
- 4670 €66
- 4830 €80
- 4850 €120

now they will add

- 4770 at €100

but we don't really need that many products in my humble opinion, kill of 4670 (I think that is already one) and HD 4830 also; bump up speed of 4770, price is at €100; so you're left with:

- 4650 €50
- 4770 €100
- 4850 €120

- 4870 512 €150
- 4870 1024 €175
- 4890 1024 €250
- 4870X2 €400

As time goes on 4870 512mb will disappear, 1gb will drop down to €150, 4890 to €200;

current ATI value line-up is too crowded; they need to axe some models

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geoffrey

Not bad to have more choice right

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jmke

it's bad to have too much choice to; especially when some products perform so closely that the difference is not worth the price difference

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Kougar

They are axing the 4830. Not sure what, if anything, else though.

Kenshi

This is the card I'm waiting for as well.

Hopefully the 40nm offers decent temps and decent overclock potential

I'm definately going to buy this one, just to get through the rest of the year, till they release their new range of cards