can't install/boot winxp

31st March 2004, 17:48

the problem:
i cannot install winXP, nor boot into it with an install from another system (blue screen during load, or hang during install)
however, i can install and boot win98 albeit not stable

the system:
abit NF7 v2.0 (non-S)
amd athlon xp 2100+ AIUHB
2* 512Mb pc3200 takeMS

this i already did:
rma'd mobo -> problem remained
another cpu (2200+) -> same problem
exchanged ram -> problem is still here
tried diffirent hd's -> did not help

except for the graka, everything is new
and the graka is working fine for 3 weeks now in another system (gaming, 3dmarking, ...)

so eh, anyone any ideas?

jmke · 31st March 2004, 17:53

change PSU.

31st March 2004, 17:57

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
change PSU.

antec truecontrol 550 watt
voltage rails are fine
and adjustable
but ok, i'll give it a shot

would be a shame though, such a nice psu

Bosw8er · 31st March 2004, 18:03

PCI-slots : only essential stuff, no nics/sound/modems/...
BIOS : disable all non-essential onboard stuff, use most safe settings for cpu/ram

... try again

31st March 2004, 18:14

psu change didn't help

pci slots are empty
loaded fail safe defaults
disabled all onboard ****

problem still here
very strange indeed

nf7-s worked fine
but i fried that one

edit: i'm even using stock cooling

31st March 2004, 19:15

Try to use one memory at the time, that is mostly the problem,
Is it PC3200?

www.bytesatwork.be/forum

31st March 2004, 21:33

tried www.memtest86.com already.
Most likely memory failiure. Have you tried another BRAND of memory, or just had the ones you have replaced?

1st April 2004, 04:11

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeStyler
tried www.memtest86.com already.
Most likely memory failiure. Have you tried another BRAND of memory, or just had the ones you have replaced?

no errors after 3 passes

1st April 2004, 10:10

Quote:

Originally posted by jakkerd
the problem:
nor boot into it with an install from another system (blue screen during load, or hang during install)

This is pretty normal, unless you install it on an identical system. The error you should get is "unmountable boot volume". WinXP looks for a drive on a specific controller to boot from. If you installed an XP on a via platform, it not going to find the via IDE controller on the nForce board.
Only way around this is to change the IDE controller to the default windows driver BEFORE you remove the harddrive.

Still, problems with installing XP and stability issues under 98 point to a core problem, CPU-memory-mobo. A faulty CD(-drive) could cause the first, but once win98 in installed it should work fine.

If possible you might try another approach, instead of replacing the parts of the system, take a working system, and replace it's parts one at a time. (motherboard, see above, unless you have another NF2 board, set the IDE controller to default)
The only problem is that this requires another -working- system.

And small addition to the memtest thingy. Press c, 2, and the key for "full test" or something similar. It takes ages but if it passes 2 of those, it's OK
BTW never seen memory fail on the extended tests that didn't fail on the standard tests, but it might happen. Also I've seen memory without errors in memtest, but still causing problems. Most often this happens on intel platforms.

11th April 2004, 20:03

back from holiday
i'm going to save some money and buy diffirent ram
but in the meanwhile i messed around a bit with the system, and i'm getting a little further with the win install
however when it's almost done i get this error:

31st March 2004, 17:48	#1
jakkerd Posts: n/a	can't install/boot winxp the problem: i cannot install winXP, nor boot into it with an install from another system (blue screen during load, or hang during install) however, i can install and boot win98 albeit not stable the system: abit NF7 v2.0 (non-S) amd athlon xp 2100+ AIUHB 2* 512Mb pc3200 takeMS this i already did: rma'd mobo -> problem remained another cpu (2200+) -> same problem exchanged ram -> problem is still here tried diffirent hd's -> did not help except for the graka, everything is new and the graka is working fine for 3 weeks now in another system (gaming, 3dmarking, ...) so eh, anyone any ideas?

31st March 2004, 17:53	#2
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	change PSU. __________________

31st March 2004, 18:03	#4
Bosw8er Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,711	PCI-slots : only essential stuff, no nics/sound/modems/... BIOS : disable all non-essential onboard stuff, use most safe settings for cpu/ram ... try again __________________ "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

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31st March 2004, 18:14	#5
jakkerd Posts: n/a	psu change didn't help pci slots are empty loaded fail safe defaults disabled all onboard **** problem still here very strange indeed nf7-s worked fine but i fried that one edit: i'm even using stock cooling

31st March 2004, 19:15	#6
Bytes@Work Posts: n/a	Try to use one memory at the time, that is mostly the problem, Is it PC3200? www.bytesatwork.be/forum

31st March 2004, 21:33	#7
FreeStyler Posts: n/a	tried www.memtest86.com already. Most likely memory failiure. Have you tried another BRAND of memory, or just had the ones you have replaced?

11th April 2004, 20:03	#10
jakkerd Posts: n/a	back from holiday i'm going to save some money and buy diffirent ram but in the meanwhile i messed around a bit with the system, and i'm getting a little further with the win install however when it's almost done i get this error: