too much heat

1st May 2003, 15:43

I have a Chieftec dragon silver midi case. As CPU a AMD 2000+ (palomino). Mobo is a leadtek nforce²
I think i have a problem with my cooling. I have 3 casefans (2 enermax, 1 NMB-very old-). My CPU fan is a PAPST with a Zalman CNPS6000-CU

For all of you who knows how a chieftec midi case is build, i will you give the exact place of the casefans

* 1 enermax @ the back (the lowest of the two holes) --> outtake
* 1 enermax @ front below --> intake
* NMB fan (strictly for giving a little cooling on my HDD)@ front in the HHD BAY --> intake

Normally a fan moest blow on the zalman cooler, but if the fan sucks, i've noticed that the cpu is less warm.

now the temps are case: 39 en CPU: 54. That's too hot, even for a palomino. The PAPST is @ 12v the rest@ minimum voltage of the rheobus (i think that's 5)
Does anyone know what i must do?
Soon i will have 2 panaflo fans, maybe that's better.
I have also a 90 mm Zalman fan here. Should i replace the papst fan with it.

Bosw8er · 1st May 2003, 15:51

What are the specs of the fans, how much CFM do they have ?

Your HS is not made for performance, it's made for silent operation ... get another one.

When using 'strong' casefans (not 20 CFM fans) i suggest sucking in stead of blowing. Warm air gets "pulled" directly from the HS through the back-exhaust. Otherwise you get interference from the intake/outtake with the flow from the 'blowing' cpu fan ...

I have about 80CFM going through one case. Switching from blowing to sucking gave me an extra drop in temps of 4-5°C loaded ... although the manufacturer suggests blowing.

1st May 2003, 16:01

i will give you the specs in a moment. I know the zalman cooler is for silent things, but i think a cpu temp of 50° or less is possible, espacially because it's not so warm in here

1st May 2003, 16:57

PAPST 4412 FGML: 120 mm - 67.1 CFM - 1950 RPM
ENERMAX (i bought it @ Tones, I think Enermax UC8 FAB) 39.8 CFM - 1000/3000 PM
Titan TFD-8025M12C: 80 mm - 32.4 CFM - 2500 RPM

1st May 2003, 20:12

you'd indeed better use the (included) 92MM fan for the zalman.

It moves more air then the papst, and is more quiet.

1st May 2003, 22:53

ok thx will change it later on the evening

i will use my papst then to make a blow hole

2nd May 2003, 17:51

ok installed the zalman again. Did the intake on HDD's away.

so now i have 1 enermax intake, 1 outtake and zalman blows on cpu.

temp (with case open) 54° CPU and case 43°

if i make a blowhole (top) with the papst, wil that be good?

jmke · 2nd May 2003, 17:53

you should have more outtake then intake fans, so making a top blowhole would be good

3rd May 2003, 12:58

also in my midi chieftec case? All the wires are there, and there is only 2cm between case and PSU

sorry for my dutch but i don't know how i can say this in good english.

Wat is het beste dat ik gebruik een centerzaag, klokboor of dremel?

1st May 2003, 15:43	#1
veder Posts: n/a	too much heat I have a Chieftec dragon silver midi case. As CPU a AMD 2000+ (palomino). Mobo is a leadtek nforce² I think i have a problem with my cooling. I have 3 casefans (2 enermax, 1 NMB-very old-). My CPU fan is a PAPST with a Zalman CNPS6000-CU For all of you who knows how a chieftec midi case is build, i will you give the exact place of the casefans * 1 enermax @ the back (the lowest of the two holes) --> outtake * 1 enermax @ front below --> intake * NMB fan (strictly for giving a little cooling on my HDD)@ front in the HHD BAY --> intake Normally a fan moest blow on the zalman cooler, but if the fan sucks, i've noticed that the cpu is less warm. now the temps are case: 39 en CPU: 54. That's too hot, even for a palomino. The PAPST is @ 12v the rest@ minimum voltage of the rheobus (i think that's 5) Does anyone know what i must do? Soon i will have 2 panaflo fans, maybe that's better. I have also a 90 mm Zalman fan here. Should i replace the papst fan with it.

1st May 2003, 15:51	#2
Bosw8er Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,711	What are the specs of the fans, how much CFM do they have ? Your HS is not made for performance, it's made for silent operation ... get another one. When using 'strong' casefans (not 20 CFM fans) i suggest sucking in stead of blowing. Warm air gets "pulled" directly from the HS through the back-exhaust. Otherwise you get interference from the intake/outtake with the flow from the 'blowing' cpu fan ... I have about 80CFM going through one case. Switching from blowing to sucking gave me an extra drop in temps of 4-5°C loaded ... although the manufacturer suggests blowing. __________________ "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

2nd May 2003, 17:53	#8
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	you should have more outtake then intake fans, so making a top blowhole would be good __________________

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1st May 2003, 16:01	#3
veder Posts: n/a	i will give you the specs in a moment. I know the zalman cooler is for silent things, but i think a cpu temp of 50° or less is possible, espacially because it's not so warm in here

1st May 2003, 16:57	#4
veder Posts: n/a	PAPST 4412 FGML: 120 mm - 67.1 CFM - 1950 RPM ENERMAX (i bought it @ Tones, I think Enermax UC8 FAB) 39.8 CFM - 1000/3000 PM Titan TFD-8025M12C: 80 mm - 32.4 CFM - 2500 RPM

1st May 2003, 20:12	#5
FreeStyler Posts: n/a	you'd indeed better use the (included) 92MM fan for the zalman. It moves more air then the papst, and is more quiet.

1st May 2003, 22:53	#6
veder Posts: n/a	ok thx will change it later on the evening i will use my papst then to make a blow hole

2nd May 2003, 17:51	#7
veder Posts: n/a	ok installed the zalman again. Did the intake on HDD's away. so now i have 1 enermax intake, 1 outtake and zalman blows on cpu. temp (with case open) 54° CPU and case 43° if i make a blowhole (top) with the papst, wil that be good?

3rd May 2003, 12:58	#9
veder Posts: n/a	also in my midi chieftec case? All the wires are there, and there is only 2cm between case and PSU sorry for my dutch but i don't know how i can say this in good english. Wat is het beste dat ik gebruik een centerzaag, klokboor of dremel?