piotke

Hiya,

I need a new p4 motherboard.

I can get this motherboard for 200 €

ABIT IC7-MAX3 (Intel 875P (Canterwood), P4 478 800FSB, 6SATA, SATARAID (0+1), 4DDR Dual Channel PC3200, 5PCI, CSA Gb LAN, OTES Tech ) IN STOCK € 249,90

but I don't need sate stuff, ...

Then my eye spotted this one:

ABIT IS7-E (Intel 865PE, P4 478 800FSB, SATA, 4DDR Dual Channel PC3200, 5PCI, 6 channel SOUND, LAN) IN STOCK € 104,90

That's only 105 €...

difference is the chipset. Is it any good ? colin has that board and hes reaching 292 fsb with a 2.4 c

jmke

the springdale is the best bang for the buck for your P4 rig

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piotke

springdale is is7 ? correct ?

canterwood is ig7 ?

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jmke

iC7
like you stated in your 1st post

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piotke

oki.

motherboard I'm sure about, is7 it is.

Now the cpu and ram. 2.6 or 2.8 C

And memory, pc3200, but corsair or geil. Price is the almost the same, corsair a little more expensive....
I heard some people have problems running corsair on the is7 ?

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RichBa5tard

I have 2 is7's. Not too fond of it, but they aren't crap either. I just bought them because of the attractive price.

I've got a 2.6C@ 250fsb 5/4 pat disabled and a 2.8C @ 260fsb 5/4 pat disabled running 24/7 stable. It wasn't easy to get stable though, i don't know why but memtimings and cpuclock are not independed.

I've tested 4 sticks Corsair XMS 3200 CL2 (winbond bh-6) and didn't encounter problems on the is7.

If I would get a new board, i would defenitly go for the asus p4p800 instead of the abit is7. Believe it or not, the small asus p4p800-vm i sold you was a better, and more stable overclocker than my is7's. A pitty you couldn't lock the overclock in bios, otherwhise i wouldn't have sold it. You can force clockgen to overclock everytime at boot though.

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piotke

I don't like the clockgen way of overclocking, and it had almost no voltage options....

So, what board would you advise me ? I do not intend to voltmod the boards....

btw, doesn't pat give you a huge performanc boost ? Why disabling it ?

The is7 is more overclocker friendly than the p4p800 vm...

Can you overclock the "normal" p4p800 in bios, and with voltage options ?

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piotke

ow, corsair or geil ?

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jmke

wtf do you mean with "almost no"

clockgen changes the CLOCKspeed, otherwise it would have been called "VOLTgen".
set your vcore higher in the BIOS, the use clockgen to find the limit.

most bang4buck = 2.4c

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RichBa5tard

difference between i865 en i875 is mainly pat certified or not. You can enable pat on the is7, but it overclocks even far worse when enabled.

You can't adjust voltages on the p4p800-vm, but it gives a stable 1.585vcore. Do you want to run +1.6v through a 200$ cpu? I alwas put the vcore on my is on 1.575, because on both they drop 0.075v (!!) under load. If I would have wanted the stable 1.585v of the p4p800 is would have to set the is7 to 1.65v (idle)... which is too much.

You don't have vdimm adjustments, true, but you will most likely end up running 250 ~ 260 on 5/4 so your ram will be able to run at stock voltage.

I would buy cheap ram that can do 5-2-2 cl2 at 200~ 210mhz and aim for 4/5 divider.

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