OCZ PC4200, waste of money ?

Gamer · 4th November 2003, 22:33

not better then my ram running @ 216mhz cas 2-2-2-5.
are latencies importent with I875, I thought not ?

almost the same fsb, but 1:1.

WTF is wrong here ?

jmke · 4th November 2003, 22:39

latencies are less important, but they do still count, since PAT is actually a cummulation of more aggressive memory/system bus timings, running your memory at high FSB with low timings will result in the best performance.

CL2-2-2-5 is extremely good, if you get a stick that does 250 @those timings you'll be in way up there. BH5 chips with 3.2v vdimm should be good

what vdimm voltage are you running at?
are those the best timings on that ram?

remember that P4 aimed memory is not that good at low timings, at least not those currently on the market, high speed + low timings is not yet for tommorow I think.

Gamer · 4th November 2003, 22:45

I understand, only I din't expect a result like that.
vdimm is 2.85, higher is not possible without vmod.

I think these are the best timings, it had errors @ 2.5-4-4-7.

this sucks.

jmke · 4th November 2003, 22:53

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...&articID=11 3

read through this

The Senile Doctor · 5th November 2003, 11:52

why do you think I'm stickin to my memory?
and what will you do with pc4200 when in three months the a64's will have such an advantage on the intels that you need to change camps? your pc 4200 will have no advantages on pc 3700... no athlon64 or fx setup will go above 240 fsb...

RichBa5tard · 5th November 2003, 13:12

Quote:

Originally posted by calantak
why do you think I'm stickin to my memory?
and what will you do with pc4200 when in three months the a64's will have such an advantage on the intels that you need to change camps? your pc 4200 will have no advantages on pc 3700... no athlon64 or fx setup will go above 240 fsb...

Some have reached 290fsb stable.

Being a new core, i don't think a 300fsb (2@3Ghz) will be uncommon in a few months.

Intel chips overclock great, but the lack of multiplier settings seriously screws up the fun. You have to have the perfect mobo and ram to go with your processor, and you never know up front how well each component will overclock.

Intel P4 with HT and > 3ghz is a great and fast chip, but the whole "buy a P4, set it to 250fsb and 4/5 mem and you're golden" is bollocks.

Tuning an athlon XP is easy and fun. Tuning a P4 is expensive and irritating.

The Senile Doctor · 5th November 2003, 15:26

290?
hmm, with what cooling?
haven't seen many nice overclocks on athlon 64's yet...

and moreover, more fsb on a current a64 doesn't imply much greater power...

RichBa5tard · 5th November 2003, 16:00

Well, depends on what we mean with "fsb". Hypertransport or memory controller?

Charlie at xtreme uses dry ice for benchin... not the most permanent cooling solution.

easypanic · 5th November 2003, 17:01

yes, oc's above 290 FSB are great, except... if it's with a prometeia or dry ice.

I'd like to see such oc's with air or simple h2o cooling, that would be interesting.

jmke · 5th November 2003, 17:04

does a peltier count?

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jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	latencies are less important, but they do still count, since PAT is actually a cummulation of more aggressive memory/system bus timings, running your memory at high FSB with low timings will result in the best performance. CL2-2-2-5 is extremely good, if you get a stick that does 250 @those timings you'll be in way up there. BH5 chips with 3.2v vdimm should be good what vdimm voltage are you running at? are those the best timings on that ram? remember that P4 aimed memory is not that good at low timings, at least not those currently on the market, high speed + low timings is not yet for tommorow I think. __________________

4th November 2003, 22:45	#3
Gamer [M] Reviewer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,587	I understand, only I din't expect a result like that. vdimm is 2.85, higher is not possible without vmod. I think these are the best timings, it had errors @ 2.5-4-4-7. this sucks. __________________

4th November 2003, 22:53	#4
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,022	http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...&articID=11 3 read through this __________________

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The Senile Doctor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: wherever the doom is Posts: 3,171	290? hmm, with what cooling? haven't seen many nice overclocks on athlon 64's yet... and moreover, more fsb on a current a64 doesn't imply much greater power... __________________ OC-2-the-death Where the Reverend is doing his Magick, all mortals be silent Doom over the world

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